Not sure how it will do long term but cars are much better built nowadays. I drive a 2015 Honda Civic, but this is intended more as a general question. False, yeah they’re not the high reving engines Honda has produced in the past but the engine is tuned to handle consistent mid range revs as experienced on the highway. I was worried about mine too. It's always right at the full mark. 2015 SI is a honda branded 0W-20 oil. I had obsessed about this car for months and months and lived frugally so I can comfortably afford it. My owner's manual recommends changing brake fluid at 3 years, regardless of mileage. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I usually do it every time i need pads. In the midwest blowing a rusted out brake line after 15 years usually makes you change the fluid haha. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. My owner's manual recommends changing brake fluid at 3 years, regardless of mileage. Toyota, Honda, Mazda, and Subaru will definitely get you to 150K+ and should last to 200K. I like to be able to see that there is a difference when I'm done. That’s my really experience. The car warms up and blows heat way faster than my 2014 Civic ever did. They supposedly fixed the issue for the 2019’s, however, their fix is purely a software update and they didn’t actually try to fix the engine in any way. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Yet, despite all of my research from its features and the math behind finances...Somehow I never learned about or was informed of having to break in a new engine during the first ~600 miles. Don’t sweat it too much. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Lol, hahahahah oh yeah that sounds perfect :-). I would say it should be common knowledge that engines need a break-in period but that is here not there at that point. I don't think the newer cars need a break in. People can talk about water and hydroscopic shit all day, but the truth is in a street car the brakes simply don’t get that hot. Why would Honda omit this for their top model ride? I have a 2020 honda civic ex hatchback. He stared at me for a second, then he started smiling and laughing. This is the best advice you will get on a break in for modern engines. I've heard that for the first 500 miles you are not really supposed to drive at a constant engine speed (RPM) and you shouldn't abuse it for the first either. I asked him if he had a pressure bleeder that I could borrow. Don’t worry about it. I just crossed that mark a few months ago. good news: By nature I drive conservatively and safely, and rarely ever push down on the throttle too hard. We finally drove the car to the junkyard with more than 500k on the odometer after 15 years (the rust did that poor car in). I am a proud owner of a brand new 2019 Civic Hatchback EX. Not so much since then - its really rare nowadays to see an actual mechanical failure due to brake fluid absorbing too much moisture. I've heard newer cars don't really have a break in period. Created by Honda Enthusiast. What are your thoughts? I also floored mine once too and it’s still fine. Just try and drive with varying RPM’s and you should be fine, city driving is great for this. Back in the 80's we saw a lot of rust and debris problems in calipers and pistons, and I rebuilt a whole lot of calipers. You can greatly extend the life of brake calipers by keeping the fluid fresh. I live in Sunny FL where the humidity is 100% 8 months of the year. I would think most modern engines are pretty tolerant to break in provided that you let them warm up first. When I finally did I had one tiny air bubble. I didn’t know highway driving was “bad” until later. I have not seen the oil level move at all. It's only 3 miles to my work I take the long way so it's about 7 miles. I am a proud owner of a brand new 2019 Civic Hatchback EX. I’m just telling you my real world experience. Just got mine a few months ago. Hyundai and Kia are reliable but I honestly couldn’t tell you at what mileage point they stop becoming reliable. You would think this would be the other way around! We're not all perfect. Plus, ignoring high moisture or high copper levels can cause very expensive damage to the ABS valves. This. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. So me, being the by the book guy i am, didn’t change it for 10 years. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The reason for the break-in period is to mate the engine's friction surfaces to each other in the smoothest manner, so they seal or rotate against each other with minimal leakage or friction. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. I should probably get some of those testers, but. In a hydraulic system the fluid stays in the caliper. I’ve never bothered with that, I wouldn’t worry about it. High levels of copper in the fluid is a sign of brake line breakdown from the brazing. It also tends to gather moisture over time. I intend to have this car for 10 plus years since my previous Honda lasted that long with minimal issues before it was given to family. I may have redlined it once or twice before that though. From here on out you should be checking your oil levels every time you fill your car with gas and check your oil for a strong gas smell. Enjoy. I trust my owner's manual, but I also trust my mechanic. On another more serious note however, the 1.5T engines in the civics, the earth dreams turbo, have a fairly serious issue with fuel getting into the oil and cause too high amounts of oil dilution. I change it every couple years. but still! Any thoughts on what sort of break in I should do if any? There is mention in my 2012 Civic EX though...600 miles. And had you been informed that this is something to do with every new car? They are partly correct as DI engines like this are a bit more susceptible to oil dilution, however, these engines are experiencing oil dilution on a whole other level and it’s causing harm to your engine. Honda and your dealer will try to tell you that the smell and high oil levels due to dilution is a normal occurrence. I'd rather spend $5 on a bottle of brake fluid than $500 on an ABS module. I will certainly keep an eye on the oil. And at the very least, I know to adjust my driving now an it's still relatively early :). Keep the original oil in it till the maintenance minder tells you to change it. The heat from braking slowly wears out the fluid and gives it different properties. Then again, their primary goal is to sell -_-; 20++ years ago (let’s not get into specifics on how I am) my dad broke in a new car engine by driving it on the highway for hours on-end commuting. Fluid is cheap and changing it requires no special tools or equipment. Varying the RPMs helps break in the piston rings fully so that oil consumption is less likely down the road. The tester will tell you how much water is in the fluid and the test strips will tell you how much copper is in the fluid. bad news: work suddenly had me travel extended long distances, so I was operating the engine at highway speeds with a constant RPM during cruise control. We’ve recently been asked how long Honda’s break-in period for new vehicles is, so read on to learn the answer! If they weren’t Honda wouldn’t sell cars since you know people are always driving on the highway. In my opinion opening brake bleeders periodically can help you down the road when you have an issue and need to bleed the brakes. He took one look at my master cylinder, and said not to worry about it for at least another 30-40K miles. It wouldn’t hurt to keep an eye on it tho just to be safe. I change the brake fluid every time I change the pads but recommend others do it every 3 years. So what do you guys say? Even when I insisted and offered to slip him some money/beer for using his pressure bleeder, he said the job really wasn't necessary. I would just not use the remote start. The owners manual only says don’t rev excessive for the first 600 miles. Hello everyone! Some of these engines aren’t experiencing this issue as heavy as others and like I said 2019 is supposed to be all fixed up. If you can see the fluid is light and clean. Press J to jump to the feed. Maybe take it easy the first thousand miles. He put his hand on my shoulder, and said "bless your heart kid, I've been doing this for 15 years, and you're the first person I've ever seen that's actually listened to that". Doesn’t say anything about highway driving. I live in maine so it's definitely cold here. Its good! I picked mine up on Friday, Yesterday I took it for a long highway drive (some 800 miles) and every half hour or so I would rev the piss out of her by down shifting and accelerating to about 6.5K rpm then let off the gas and let engine braking do it's thing. Oil dilution can wear engine parts at an accelerated rate and cause it to fail far sooner than it normally would. I’m sure flooring it once isn’t going to hurt it. Hard to say. I didn’t know much about the break in period. Any thoughts on what sort of break in I should do if any? Keep tabs on the oil level while breaking it in, but run the oil down to 10% or less life remaining on the dash indicator before changing it. Thank you so much for the informative post! I just crossed that mark a few months ago. and when I was test-driving it before purchasing, the salesman shifted the car to 'S' and told me to floor it. I think it depends a lot on where you live as well.
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